Another eBay screwing....

[Greg Barlow]

Just when you thought that Rob was alone in his battles with an eBay seller. I purchased an AMF Swimaster BC from a seller who listed it as, "looks near mint". I guess that means it would have been mint, had the inflator hose not been broken half way off...

Oh, well.....It is the first real screwing I've received over the years....

And to think that the seller lists himself as "eliteseller". Yeah, right!


From: "HR Procto" <elitesellers>
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: AMF Swimaster BC
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:43:18 -0800
>I am very sorry that you are unhappy with the item. I do my best to
>describe each item even though I am not an expert in scuba
>equiptment. I did say that the bc looked near mint and for that
>reason I am happy to take it back for a refund of your bid price.
>Please note that per the item description, all of my auction items
>are As-Is, untested, used, not perfect & not guaranteed, thus, no
>refunds. Shipping, and return shipping fees are non-refundable.
>
>
>
>>From: Greg Barlow <gbarlow59>
>>To: HR Procto <elitesellers>
>>Subject: RE: AMF Swimaster BC
>>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:47:18 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>Dear HR,
>>
>> So, if I return the BC to you, are you going to refund the
>>purchase price and shipping costs? It seems silly to return it
>>only to refund the item price of ten dollars. After all, I will
>>have spent at least twenty dollars in shipping costs for an item
>>half of that amount.
>>
>> I guess I was expecting a lot more when it was labled as, "looks
>>near mint".
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>HR Procto <elitesellers> wrote:
>> Hi Gregg, Sorry I misunderstood, I thought it may have been
>>damaged in
>>shipping. You will need to return the item for a refund. You might
>>try
>>USPS.
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Greg Barlow
>> >To: HR Procto
>> >Subject: RE: AMF Swimaster BC
>> >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:55:41 -0800 (PST)
>> >
>> >Thanks for the quick response. I don't think that UPS would be
>> >responsible, as the box is in fine condition. As I mentioned, I
>>believe
>> >that the gasket tore when the BC was folded and placed in the
>>shipping box.
>> > I can return it to you, but the purchase price was $9.99 and the
>>shipping
>> >charge was $14.89. If I ship it back to you, UPS has quoted me a
>>return
>> >price of $9.50.
>> >
>> > Please let me know what your thoughts are...
>> >
>> > Greg Barlow
>> >
>> >HR Procto wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi Gregg,
>> >
>> >I am very sorry that the BC did not arrive ok. I think we have
>>two options.
>> >First UPS insures all the packages, so if you report it to UPS
>>you should
>> >get your money back. Second, if UPS does not agree to a refund,
>>then you
>> >can return it and I will refund you bid price. (Per the item
>>description, I
>> >mentioned that there are no refunds, but as I do remember the
>>condition
>> >being very good I did not notice the gasket). Please keep us
>>posted with
>> >your progress with UPS. Again, I am very disapointing that it did
>>not
>> >arrive ok.
>> >
>> >H. Proctor
>> >
>> > >From: Greg Barlow
>> > >To: [email protected]
>> > >Subject: AMF Swimaster BC
>> > >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:25:13 -0800 (PST)
>> > >
>> > >Greetings,
>> > >
>> > > I received the AMF Swimaster BC yesterday, and found it to
>>have the
>> > >inflation hose broken half way off from the vest itself. Your
>> > >description listed it as, "looks near mint". As I carefully
>>examined it I
>> > >could
>> > >see where the rubber gasket holding the hose has deteriorated
>>over the
>> > >years. I believe that if the hose were moved much at all it
>>would
>> > >completely come off, as it is barely attached.
>> > >
>> > >As it is, the BC is useless. I am wondering if when you folded
>>it
>> > >for packing, if the stress of being in the box in the folded
>>position
>> > >didn't cause the weak material to tear.
>> > >
>> > > If you need digital photographs taken of the damage, please
>>let me
>> > >know.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > >Greg Barlow
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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[1969ivan1]

Unfortunate to say the least. I also lost out when I returned my item, but he did finally relent on the over charge on the shipping. I think some folks are more likely to try a fast one when they are selling a vintage or low priced item. Thanks for the heads up on this seller Greg.

[JES]

Greg,

Sorry to hear that this transaction was not what you should have been able to reasonably expect.

Some sellers have no remorse in their quest for the almighty dollar.

Like Rob said "Thanks for the heads up on this seller".

[Bob3]

That bites, Greg. I've had descriptions/conditions go both ways, I got a 1st edition Cousteau book, forget the name now, but the seller had packed it so crappily that the only thing that kept it from falling out of the box was duct tape on the dust jacket, which was trashed.

Going the other way, one Nemrod I got on eBay still had talc on the hoses & came in the original box (not mentioned in the ebay ad). I emailed the guy & he said the thing had spent its life in the display counter, never been wet.
Sorta like a crap shoot sometimes.