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kworkman
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USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:20 pm

Why arent USD yokes interchangeable between single stage and 2 stage regulators? Is the diameter of the hole different?

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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:29 pm

The diameter of the hole in the two stage yokes is too large to work on the single stage regulators. Not enough contact area on the nut to be safe.

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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:51 pm

In addition to the hole diameter, there is an under cut on the 2 stage regs that is not cut into the single stage yokes so even if the holes were the same size, the single stage yokes would not work on the 2 stage regs. 2 stage yokes would work on single stage regs if the diameters were the same.
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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:01 pm

Herman wrote:In addition to the hole diameter, there is an under cut on the 2 stage regs that is not cut into the single stage yokes so even if the holes were the same size, the single stage yokes would not work on the 2 stage regs. 2 stage yokes would work on single stage ref if the diameters were the same.
So few single stage yokes floating around I forgot all about that part!
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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:12 pm

My issue, and not a major one, is that my Spiro came with a long heavy style yoke thst works on my older valves with the banjo but not my new Thermo DIN/K valve. I think the screw out insert makes the Thermo a tad to thick. Almost 1" where as the the regular K valves are closer to .9" . I have a USD 2 stage long yoke I was going to use but the hole diameter is to small to allow the nut to sit flush.

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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Thermo valves with the DIN insert have frustrated a lot of vintage equipment divers trying to use banjo fittings. Perhaps you could swap someone who needs the DIN insert valve for a vintage/banjo friendly one.
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kworkman
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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:03 pm

I was just going to slap it onbthe tank so I could pressurize the reg, check for leaks and adjust the lever height. I normally use the DIN fitting on it as it is my bailout bottle.

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Re: USD Yokes

Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:38 pm

kworkman wrote:I was just going to slap it onbthe tank so I could pressurize the reg, check for leaks and adjust the lever height. I normally use the DIN fitting on it as it is my bailout bottle.
So it's really a non issue unless you have a dive planned using a LaSpirotechnique Royal Mistral with a banjo fitting on a Thermo/DIN insert bailout bottle....
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