Voit 50 Fathom Info

[capn_tucker]

Hey Greg,

Have you tried rotating the VCR-2 mechanism inside the can to get increased air flow? If so does it make any difference? I'm going to be getting my VCR-2 rebuilt soon, and considering whether to have the mechanism rotated while the rebuild is going on...

[Robohips77]

Greg, Any Paint left? Yep I am trying to take the easy route but I will pay my portion if any left. Did you paint it or did you have someone else? Since we are both in SW Ohio thought I'd ask. thanks. Roger VF By the way great info.

[Greg Barlow]

Hey Greg,

Have you tried rotating the VCR-2 mechanism inside the can to get increased air flow? If so does it make any difference? I'm going to be getting my VCR-2 rebuilt soon, and considering whether to have the mechanism rotated while the rebuild is going on...

I haven't rotated my valve assembly, but some other divers report an improvement in performance from a stronger venturi effect.

Greg Barlow

[Greg Barlow]

Greg, Any Paint left? Yep I am trying to take the easy route but I will pay my portion if any left. Did you paint it or did you have someone else? Since we are both in SW Ohio thought I'd ask. thanks. Roger VF By the way great info.

I do have some paint left. My brother restores vintage muscle cars for a living outside of Tallahassee, but UPS was going to charge me a large amount to ship the "hazardous material" paint. I had a local body shop paint it for me. If you know someone in your area, I recommend that route.

Greg

[Greg Barlow]

Hey Greg,

Have you tried rotating the VCR-2 mechanism inside the can to get increased air flow? If so does it make any difference? I'm going to be getting my VCR-2 rebuilt soon, and considering whether to have the mechanism rotated while the rebuild is going on...

Where you able to obtain a new seat assembly? Those are about as rare as hen's teeth....

Greg

[Robohips77]

Greg, send me a PM with how much you want for the paint. I know my painting friend will ask me how old the paint is so add that tid bit of info in it. I will do some before and after pics for all. My inard guts are the first photo in Bryan's post. This will be fun. Thanks for the info. RVF.

[Robohips77]

No seat yet.

[capn_tucker]

Hey Greg,

Have you tried rotating the VCR-2 mechanism inside the can to get increased air flow? If so does it make any difference? I'm going to be getting my VCR-2 rebuilt soon, and considering whether to have the mechanism rotated while the rebuild is going on...

Where you able to obtain a new seat assembly? Those are about as rare as hen's teeth....

Greg

No, I haven't been able to find any VCR-2 parts. I plan to just have Bryan refurbish the old parts best he can. That will have to do until an HP seat can be found. This reg will be pretty much a display item until then...

[simonbeans]

Considerable discusson on rotation of the mechanism so that the hole points down the intake nozzle can be found on that other "not to named" forum. I rotated mine and found a very significant difference. I would almost say that with the improved wagon wheels it breathes as nice as my Mistral. When yoiu do the rotation, the pin cannot be used unless you drill another hole. But there is no reason to do that. I would like some silicone grays however. The repro grays are just not right.
Allan

[capn_tucker]

So leaving the pin out when rotating the mechanism doesn't do anything?
That's good to know. I will definitely get the rotation done when I get around to having my reg serviced..

[Bryan]

No, I haven't been able to find any VCR-2 parts. I plan to just have Bryan refurbish the old parts best he can. That will have to do until an HP seat can be found. This reg will be pretty much a display item until then...

Voit R&R going on....

[capn_tucker]

Voit R & D? Woo Hoo! Bryan, you ARE the man! This is looking better by the minute!

[Greg Barlow]

Bryan,

Did you have any trouble turning down the stainless alloy? I am guessing it to be a 300 series part. I had thoughts of turning down my original one in my chromed version, until I found that the retaining pin was frozen solid, and the seat/disc assembly had to be cut for removal. I will measure my two new ones to determine what the tolerance range is. My guess is that a used one could easily be reduced in length by 0.010-0.015" without any functioning problems. The clear nylon seat material should be chemically stable over the last 50 years.

Let our enquiring minds know how it works...

BTW, any luck in finding compatible gaskets for the seat assembly? The originals in mine where surprisingly able to maintain an air tight seal. Given the low amount of torque necessary for a seal, an O-ring might possibly also work well. Given the thickness of two phenolic gaskets, the O-ring wouldn't be much thicker (a 0.070" O-ring). There wouldn't be any ID surface, but the pressure will be trying to extrude the O-ring outward rather than inward. If this works, along with your resurfacing efforts, the 50 Fathoms will have a long life ahead of them.

Greg Barlow

[eskimo3883]

Hi Greg,

Can you tell me what primer you used on the bare brass under the blue paint? Can I assume the blue was a lacquer and not an enamel? Also, did you polish the brass with a buffing wheel or some other tool?

[Bryan]

Bryan,

Did you have any trouble turning down the stainless alloy? I am guessing it to be a 300 series part. I had thoughts of turning down my original one in my chromed version, until I found that the retaining pin was frozen solid, and the seat/disc assembly had to be cut for removal. I will measure my two new ones to determine what the tolerance range is. My guess is that a used one could easily be reduced in length by 0.010-0.015" without any functioning problems. The clear nylon seat material should be chemically stable over the last 50 years.

Let our enquiring minds know how it works...

BTW, any luck in finding compatible gaskets for the seat assembly? The originals in mine where surprisingly able to maintain an air tight seal. Given the low amount of torque necessary for a seal, an O-ring might possibly also work well. Given the thickness of two phenolic gaskets, the O-ring wouldn't be much thicker (a 0.070" O-ring). There wouldn't be any ID surface, but the pressure will be trying to extrude the O-ring outward rather than inward. If this works, along with your resurfacing efforts, the 50 Fathoms will have a long life ahead of them.

Greg Barlow

I just had the seat in the drill because I was polising it with emery paper after I got the groove out of it. Other than that I have not experimented with any other parts.