Satin and smooth chrome

[Nemrod]

I cannot find my sources at the moment, so I will just ask here. Which regulators by Voit--if any--had one can shiny chrome and the other satin? It seems the 50 Fathom and the Navy had a shiny front can and a satin rear can? Am I confused here? I don't think USD ever mixed and matched but since Voit got all the left overs from USD (lol--that is a brand dig for Greg ) I think that Voit did mix and match?

Nem

[1969ivan1]

I could be wrong, but Voit NAVY regs sometimes had satin on the back and sometime shiny on both sides. Also, the USD Over Pressure was shiny on the front and dull on the back.

[capn_tucker]

Other than the blue painted 50 Fathom and plastic 50 Fathom, all Voit double hoses prior to the Trieste were two-tone chrome. Except for, as Rob stated the Voit Navy, which can be found in either two-tone or all shiny chrome. The majority of Navys that turn up are two-tone though.
I'm guessing the all shiny ones were late production, which is why you don't see many of them...

[Nemrod]

So, then to refresh my memory, most chrome Voits had a smooth front can (the one with the decal) and a satin finsh back can (the one with the valve body)--is that correct? And of course if they had the circle clamp that was shiny as well. I also recall that the valve body was typically shiny chrome ? What about the yoke and yoke butterfly screw?

Oh so, the Navy then was found late with both front and back smooth shiny chrome and early with satin and smooth mixed. The 50 Fathon came in blue plastic, blue painted brass (both front and rear can painted blue) and in chrome with the front can (decal) with smooth shiny chrome and the aft can satin? and a shiny clamp ring?

Nem

[Bryan]

As soon as we have a definate or 90% accurate facts on this it should be listed as bullet points and be in the technical tips section....My 2 cents. I have had Voit Navy regulators with both satin and chrome backs.....I have never seen a plastic Voit that had a shiny yoke or body parts.....Jack had me chrome his plastic 50 fathom parts cause he liked them that way......And that's all I got to say about that...

[Nemrod]

Excellent idea Bryan.

Here is why I am asking:

1) To want to restore an original and complete Voit aquired--or

2) Tto be able to tell the difference between piece built regs made from SeaHawko etc parts from ebay and the real deal. How do you know that satin chrome top Voit can (rechromed) and fitted to a USD DA back and body is really a Voit or a USD DA with a new front can? See what I mean? --or

3) Does it matter?

I might, not saying I do , have a pile'O'parts in front of me from which I could assemble a Voit XXX and then sell it on ebay for a small fortune to use guys and how the heck would you know or just keep it for myself and drive Allan crazy cuz he will know it is fake

Like the RAM vs DA switcharoos we have seen, I betcha some upcoming Voits are fake--fake--fake (Seinfeld when Jerry asked Elane if she ever faked it)

Hey, I gotta make up for the "Suit Nazi" some how or another .

Nem

[luis]

Hey, I gotta make up for the "Suit Nazi" some how or another .

Nem

Now, that reminded me of Seinfeld and the “soup Nazi”…
“NO suit for YOU!!"

Sorry of topic…just thought it was funny.

[Bryan]

Many times the regulators you see for sale in the store section do not contain all the original parts that came with them. I pick and choose the best parts that I have at the time to put on them. I try to make them the best they can and give the best value possible.……I agree that in the future we will see some very clever forgeries of some rare regulators. A couple of people that have seen the faux non magnetc that I did for Rob years ago and have asked me to do more….I just can’t do it cause maybe not today or tomorrow but sometime down the road someone will tell how the cow eats the cabbage and I’ll be known only as the guy that sells phony non magnetics!….

“No Suit For You” Suit Nazi

[Nemrod]

In aviation, if a vintage aircraft crashes it can be rebuilt literally from the data plate with only the data plate original as long as the resulting aircraft meets it's original TC (Type Certificate) and the data plate is re-affixed.

Applying that thinking I se no problem with repairing or rebuilding a regulator in kind and in method as it would have been done "in the day" or even now in this day. What I am more concerned with and mulling over is parts bin regs that are put together or even manipulated to increase their value such as awapping nozzles out on a DA or faking a RAM or taking a Navy top can and putting it on a USD DA and calling it a Voit Navy.

I was just joking when I said I was going to put a forgery together and sell it for the (1000) dollars a Navy has been getting lately (vs 250 for a DA). You see the potential. This has nothing to do with Faux labels ( I love those new labels--thanks a million for those great labels).

I found here http://www.vintagescuba.com/voit/voitnavy.html some answers to my questions. it does appear most Voits came with a satin back can, smooth top can, satin body parts, satin yoke and wing nut. I notice the Navy on this site seems ot have a substitued long yoke because it is smooth shiny chrome and everything other is satin.

Details might save somebody from spending a thousand dollars on a DA with a Voit navy top can---lol.

Doesn't everybody need a Voit Navy DA RAM heavy yoke or a round label, square label, DA RAM heavy yoke or a 50 Fathom DA, RAM Phoenix with DA round label satin can? Can't just leave all those parts laying around.

In this photo you can see that the Voit 50 Fathom has a satin bottom case and a bright chromed upper case, bright blue data plate and lovely gray hoses and notice that the yoke is also satin chrome. Perhaps this is typical of most all Voits except maybe the very last Navy models?




Nem

[simonbeans]

I am looking for a back half (yoke side) for a mistral. I have most all the parts for the guts, just need a decent back half.
Allan

[Greg Barlow]

My rechromed Navy had original shiny chrome on both cans. The new plating job looks much better than any original that I've seen. It is a showpiece/diver as I've rebuilt it using Bryan's parts. In fact, with the silicone diaprhagm, I dare say it is better than an original.

For what it is worth, my Navy also has the black/gold label. IMO, it looks rather nice with black hoses and straight mouthpiece.

Greg

[standingup]

Hey Bryan -- I see another video showing the proper internals of different regs??? Then for petes sake slap them on a cd in the store. So dummies like me can watch and rewatch when necessary, or when dreaming.

[JES]

Hey Bryan -- I see another video showing the proper internals of different regs??? Then for petes sake slap them on a cd in the store. So dummies like me can watch and rewatch when necessary, or when dreaming.

Since they're not currently offered on CD you can always view them here: Bryan's Double Hose Videos