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[seahunter]

I was a regular contributer to sb but was subjected to regular and obvious abuse by several members for the single reason that I own a dive shop. Apparently that makes me fair game for every disgruntled diver who's forced to pay for air which we all know is free. Unfortunately, the mods were similarly biased so personal insults directed at me were tolerated while any of my attempts to dissuade them were quickly squelched.
Several other shop owners from all over emailed me to tell me that my problem was not new. It seems others had found the same.

Sb is a good contact for many divers no doubt but it would be interesting to see how many are truly into vintage. The ads are pretty.

Would it benefit VDH and the real vintage gear divers?
I doubt it.

[JES]

Wasn't it Lisa who got the Sea Hunt Era section started? She is a moderator on Scuba Board and was looking-out for us since she and Roger share our passion.

That being said, I personally believe that most people probably find VDH through a Google search rather then by visiting Scuba Board.

Maybe the correct answer is for VDH to look into maximizing the use of Google's various resources that can help to enhance and increase traffic to this site. I'm just saying....

[capn_tucker]

Wasn't it Lisa who got the Sea Hunt Era section started? She is a moderator on Scuba Board and was looking-out for us since she and Roger share our passion.

That being said, I personally believe that most people probably find VDH through a Google search rather then by visiting Scuba Board.

Maybe the correct answer is for VDH to look into maximizing the use of Google's various resources that can help to enhance and increase traffic to this site. I'm just saying....

Exactly! Have the webmaster make it so when anyone does a search using the words vintage scuba or double hose, VDH is the first thing that pops up..

[DiverTim]

I think that anyway we can make ourselves more visible in the diving field, the better it is for us and our sport. That said, this is the go to site for vintage diving! Tim

[Bryan]

Many of us have worked very hard for several years now to make VDH the center for information/downloads/purchases and resources for double hose diving. I put a lot of my time and money into this site and do my best to keep up on it daily to make it an interesting places for youall to visit.....I don't plan on being another shill site that is simply a link to scuba board where someone else is getting paid for every click you make over there....I try to keep postings on any subject either here or on Dan's site so we don't struggle to find stuff...Even between two sites that is tough sometimes but it gives us different viewpoints and I think that is good sometimes.......The net is free and you are free to post wherever you like, If a post over there every so often gets us some new divers I am all for it!!! Just don't expect me to expend my time or resources to promote someone else’s site that really could care less about our end of the sport......I do hope it gets us some more divers!!! We need more and I know double hose diving is expanding and getting better all the time......I'm all for growing, promoting and expanding our end of the sport 100%, But I am not about shooting myself in the foot.....Thanks for your support gang!

[luis]

Maybe the correct answer is for VDH to look into maximizing the use of Google's various resources that can help to enhance and increase traffic to this site.

There are plenty of divers that are not going to do a search on Google or anywhere else for something they don’t even know they are interested in. They only find out they are interested in it after they see that other divers are diving this type of gear.

How do I know this, several of our members have join us this way.

There are also several members that found us at SB and they occasionally post here, but they are still very active at SB. They are also customers of Bryan.

There have even been a number of divers from SB who had double hose regulators (from their father, grandfather, etc.) that were not aware of our community and the services offered by Bryan and Dan until they saw some post at SB.

[Bryan]

Wasn't it Lisa who got the Sea Hunt Era section started? She is a moderator on Scuba Board and was looking-out for us since she and Roger share our passion.

That being said, I personally believe that most people probably find VDH through a Google search rather then by visiting Scuba Board.

Maybe the correct answer is for VDH to look into maximizing the use of Google's various resources that can help to enhance and increase traffic to this site. I'm just saying....

Exactly! Have the webmaster make it so when anyone does a search using the words vintage scuba or double hose, VDH is the first thing that pops up..

Unless you PAY them....Google, yahoo, msn etc direct people by keyword to your site depending on how many times that keyword appears on your site or forum....So the more times you talk about Royal Aqua-Masters or Mistrals the more chance there is that the search engines will direct people to your site....This is how I understand it works....I am not an expert in this area at all!!! So if we dilute the conversations even further to any other site there is less chance the search engines will return VDH as a result of a search.......
I say we promote and advertise EVERYWHERE that will hear us... Always a good thing.....But don't water down the two sites that are 110% promoting ONLY vintage equipment diving 24/7-365.

[JES]

Bryan,

Have Rip (and/or you) look at the following from Google:

Google Webmaster Central

This provides a one-stop shop for webmaster resources that can help you with your crawling and indexing questions, introduces you to offerings that can enhance and increase traffic to your site, and connect you with your visitors.

Just a thought that could possibly enhance your suggestions.

[INFIDELxx]

Maybe the correct answer is for VDH to look into maximizing the use of Google's various resources that can help to enhance and increase traffic to this site.

There are plenty of divers that are not going to do a search on Google or anywhere else for something they don’t even know they are interested in. They only find out they are interested in it after they see that other divers are diving this type of gear.

How do I know this, several of our members have join us this way.

There are also several members that found us at SB and they occasionally post here, but they are still very active at SB. They are also customers of Bryan.

There have even been a number of divers from SB who had double hose regulators (from their father, grandfather, etc.) that were not aware of our community and the services offered by Bryan and Dan until they saw some post at SB.

If I may comment. I believe this to be true. I'm new to this site and found it through SB. But the only way I found it was by reading through so many monotonous threads and I just happened to stumbele upon Nemrod. He was all over that board I tracked down his post's because of his pic's of a Double hose. That led me to this site. I never even saw the "Sea Hunt thread". And probably never would have.

I feel that Bryan is right about too many boards diluting the subject. I'm glad I'm here! Basically everything I'll ever need is on this site. If it's not then there are a couple of others like VSS. It's really nice to be able to go to one site and not have to muddle through all the CRAP!

Thanks for all your hard work and all of your contributions. I just bought my first double hose from MR. Sewell. It's a awesome RAM and I picked a bunch of Cd's from the store to assist me with my adventure. It would have taken me months on other boards to get were I'm at in only a week on this site. Plus my sons' are with me on this ride and very excited about coming of age and using a double hose. So all the work you guy's have put forth with carry this ADDICTION into yet another generation.

Jason

[Nemrod]

I enjoy scubaboard, hate to admit it sometimes. I have a lot of friends there, some even admit to being my friend much to the consternation of several moderators there who want to kick me off. It is a useful place to discuss various aspects of scuba diving and travel and equipment-- BUT--BUT---we already have two fine forums, vss and of course this one the Boss has provided for us, VDH for our vintage discussions.

I use scubaboard as a hook sometimes to grab people in to vintage. As you can tell, if you follow threads enough, you will see I have done that over and over. The post preceding this one is an example.

However, I found vss (before there was a vdh forum) while doing research to produce hoses, valves etc. I did not know there was anybody doing it already. I had already made contact with several companies when one mentioned to me that I was not the only one looking at making hoses etc. I quickly googled double hose and found vss. Then I realized there was also vdh and so quickly decided that I did not have to source anything, it was already there for me (and all of you) at excellent pricing and quality.

Here is another thing, exactly why after insulting us, making fun of us, in public, I heard him talking behind our backs at Weeki Wachee to the manager and several other divers, is NetDoc suddenly interested in vintage divers?

I am all into forgive and forget but first I have to be given some reason to forgive and forget. He is welcome to join up with us, but I am not going to be laughed at in public at a vintage event that we are all attending. If he wants to grab a DA and jump in with us, great, otherwise, what the dealio?

They want a new forum at scubaboard, fine, good deal, I will post there but my home is here.

Nemrod

[Bryan]

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Here is another thing, exactly why after insulting us, making fun of us, in public, I heard him talking behind our backs at Weeki Wachee to the manager and several other divers, is NetDoc suddenly interested in vintage divers?

I am all into forgive and forget but first I have to be given some reason to forgive and forget. He is welcome to join up with us, but I am not going to be laughed at in public at a vintage event that we are all attending. If he wants to grab a DA and jump in with us, great, otherwise, what the dealio?

They want a new forum at scubaboard, fine, good deal, I will post there but my home is here.

Nemrod

Could not have said it better....Thanks James

[usddude]

SB is not for me. I get on VDH EVERY and I mean EVERYDAY and VSS too. I think I will leave SB to the experts here that have helped me so much because I know ya'll will do whats best. Hmmm, I think I was on SB a couple of months ago?..hey, I'm just say'in!!!

[1969ivan1]

It is strange that Netdrk is all into vintage all of a sudden? He even posted that he felt diving was suicidal when talking about diving 2 hose regs, no spg, and no bcd! That makes no sense to me and I think perhaps he should take up golf.....Now, I am just sayin'

Scubaboard is ok for general scuba questions, but you really have to wade through a lot of info that is dead wrong. There is a reason that people call is scareyboard. I found a really good thread on DIY dry gloves and am working on the project right now. Now if I need some info about vintage diving I will come here and get it from the true vintage divers like, Tom, Nemrod, Bryan, and others....

[swimjim]

I doubt that netdoc is into vintage. He gets paid by his advertisers by the volume of hits on his site( I think). At least he could show that to the advertisers to make a case for a higher rate. If that is the case, he is simply trying to increase his own revenue. Well, that's America. I'd be doing the same thing.

Jim

[JES]

.... BUT--BUT---we already have two fine forums, vss and of course this one the Boss has provided for us, VDH for our vintage discussions. .... Nemrod

Well said.