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Re: New hoses

Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:10 am

BSea wrote:............. he's still considering producing hoses, but that he still hasn't made up his mind. I think anyone that even remotely interested, should post here or on VSS & let Stuart know we are more than willing to buy his hoses.
We've already let him know we were ready to order many times before. On...off(pout)...on again... Why the games? I would like to see him make the hoses, but I'm no beggar.

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:05 am

I think DUCKBILL hit the NAIL on the head.

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:19 am

1969ivan1 wrote:I think DUCKBILL hit the NAIL on the head.
It has been quite the Soap Opera with each time it's on and then it's off and so on ... :?
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: Yellow hoses


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Did Stuart Jefferies in England ever get his hose run up and goin g? He was going to email people when he got the run going. Anyone heard anything?

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Unfortunately there isn't any new information (or new yellow hoses). Here's what Stuart said back in January:

stuart wrote:
Hello everyone,
Good news is that my tooling is operational, but the bad news is that I'm no longer marketing my hoses. I know there are some of you who have been waiting very patiently and really want the hoses, but my general opinion from reading what people have been writing is that most people want cheap domestic hoses. I can't afford to have a quantity made and be left sitting on them.
I wish Dan good sales and once again sorry for the disappointment.
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Dan was supposed to have gotten yellow hoses in February; now that's gone by, and the yellow hoses are no longer mentioned on his website..
Deal must have fallen through...
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capn_tucker wrote:
Dan was supposed to have gotten yellow hoses in February; now that's gone by, and the yellow hoses are no longer mentioned on his website..
Deal must have fallen through...


Not exactly. There was a problem during the manufacturing process and the hoses did not meet specifications. Per Dan:

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The color is correct and the overall hose has the correct wall thickness- only the large cuff is too thin. As a result, the factory US Divers plastic clamps will not tighten down correctly (the Tinnerman clamps will work ok). Also, these yellow hoses seem to work ok with the reproduction straight mouthpieces because they have slightly thicker walls than the originals. To use these yellow hoses with an original US Divers mouthpiece and factory plastic clamps, you will have to add 2 wraps of electrical tape to the mouthpiece boss to built up the thickness and allow the clamps to tighten down. Because of this Mickey Mouse procedure, these hoses SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR DIVING and should be for display only. I hate to even sell a product like this but I am between a rock and a hard place. The price will be $30 a pair plus shipping.


If you want a pair of Dan's hoses you'll need to PM him over on VSS.
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I am moving this whole thing to the already long and boring Yellow Hose thread in the Vintage Discussion Form.......Since there is no one actually buying or selling them it really does not belong here.......

But rumor has it that Stuart is going to start shipping hoses pretty soon ??
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Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:11 pm

I was not told to keep it secret so I will mention that I have been contacted recently by Stuart in regards to one of my posts at vss where I stated something to the effect that perhaps the British will come to the rescue and with the Queen's Union Jack flying stiffly in the breeze to save us Yanks once again. LOL.

Apparently he is still progressing on his yellow/gray etc hose efforts and perhaps all is not lost. :D

I am truly sorry for what happened with Dan at vss--not fair at all--not at all. Not only has the vintage community lost a chrome plating service we trusted, now we have lost Crush Proof for a hose source which is where all these hoses have been coming from (black, gray, bright yellow etc).

BUT, in every dark cloud there is a silver lining and now perhaps we may get Stuart's yellow hoses after all. I sure hope so.

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Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:33 pm

That is good news about Stuart's hoses. Conversely, it is terrible what happened to Dan and the decision by Crush Proof to not make these hoses any more because of their own internal process problems. :(

All is not lost, because in the interim if you want a pair of Dan's yellow hoses you can PM him over on VSS. 8)
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Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:54 pm

Nemrod wrote: I am truly sorry for what happened with Dan at vss--not fair at all--not at all. Not only has the vintage community lost a chrome plating service we trusted, now we have lost Crush Proof for a hose source which is where all these hoses have been coming from (black, gray, bright yellow etc).
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:32 am

HI Folks,
James has let the cat out of the bag. Saved me doing it.
Yes the yellow hoses are being made, but I don't have a large enough stock to advertise yet. I have recieved a small quantity, which I'm sending out to various people.
The other colours will be made once the yellow run is complete.
So overall it's good news, and there will be plenty made, but is just going to take time.
Proof that hoses are in production. See picture.
Just to remind those that have never seen the hoses they are Silicone, True colour with seam lines. Very flexible and a perfect fit with no trimming, stretching etc. I'll post here once I get the full stock in.
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:20 am

Wow, they look great Stuart! I'll be hitting you up for a couple pair when the mother lode come's in!
:D :D :D
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Re: yellow hoses

Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:51 pm

stuart wrote:.... I have recieved a small quantity, which I'm sending out to various people. ....
Boy it would sure be nice to be one of those various people... 8)
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:03 pm

That is great news. :D

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Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:37 pm

:P This is just Wonderfull. "Thank you for helping everyone Stuart". :P

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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:19 pm

Wow, those are beautiful. Sorry that I let the cat out of the bag :shock: , I was just so excited. These are going to be great. Let me just assure everybody, these hoses of silicone are absolutely stunning in look and function and fit. And let me remind you guys, they are SILICONE and feel so good when you turn your head side to side and there is no oder, minty tastes etc--absolutely the primo hose on the planet. The Union Jack is at full staff.

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Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:47 pm

You're a HERO!

THANKS STUART!!
Be a gruntled diver.

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YES YES YES!!!!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:26 am

Great news indeed!. :D

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