Reproduction RAM label.....Thoughts ?

[1969ivan1]

I still think a ROYAL MISTRAL USD with the red would be the DEAL!

[Bryan]

The forum member that is reproducing the labels says that he can make them just about any way you want on a custom design.....There is some setup cost though! Of course that will not stand in the way of a T-shirt Barron like yourself !

[1969ivan1]

I will give him a tshirt today for a red mistral USD label tomorrow

[YankDownUnder]

I think the replacement labels are a great idea. However, it could become a bit of a trap with the many labels that were made and now tend to be missing. The serial number bar should be left blank, but with a small prefix. This will allow the restorer to add the number he wants, and tip off collectors as to which are being faked for profit.

Two tags that I would suggest, in addition to the ones you are currently preparing, I think should be made. One is the Green Label as it was the first model to actually be made in the USA and could be used on any Broxton, ...or really any Aqua Lung. The second, and more important, is the 'non-mag'. With one of these and a can of black spray paint, anyone can be a frogman. It would be a way to go with the many damaged Aqua Masters that are available.

If you need a sample for these, I can email a pristine Green Label to you. My non mag is pristine, but the label is not..... but would probably do the job.

In anycase, knowing I could replace a missing or damaged tag, would tempt me to buy a number of regulators I have passed up.

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I always seem to agree with Yank Down Under- He certainly has some valid points...I would just like to add a few for consideration...


["YankDownUnder"]I think the replacement labels are a great idea. However, it could become a bit of a trap with the many labels that were made and now tend to be missing. The serial number bar should be left blank, but with a small prefix. This will allow the restorer to add the number he wants, and tip off collectors as to which are being faked for profit.]

>>>I would strongly suggest that the serial bar have a prefix ...A (R) or * or some small but non tamper proof , non alterable prefix be in the serial box.

In the beginning of HDS, as some of you are aware I was on the founding BoD. There was an individual who was importing recently produced helmets, stamping a serial number on them, beating them with who knows what and treating with liver of sulfur to rapidly age them so they appeared to be old used helmets. He then sold them as diving helmets...but in reality they lacked a number of fuctional parts (air dams, seals, thick glass etc) but the new owners didn't know helmets or didn't care since they were to be used as den decor. This "dealer" sold a lot of helmets, made a lot of money and there are a lot of fake helmets on the market to day because of his actions.

Therefore there has to be some method to Id a reproduced name plate -name tag - name label (or what ever it is IDed as)

[YDU--- The second, and more important, is the 'non-mag'. With one of these and a can of black spray paint, anyone can be a frogman. It would be a way to go with the many damaged Aqua Masters that are available.]

>>>There are considerable differences between a Non Mag military and a AM. Most noteable is the stub hookha port and the stamped symbols. I have a nuber of military units many were used who know where or how but the show wear and many are missing labels, So I would be interested in a military type label.

I also have a pristine, never used, never on a tank military reg in the event you need a mint label

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[diverdown1955]

I thought that the mere fact that the serial number being a non-engraved
number would alert the future buyer as to the label being a faux unit. When the order is placed I will ask for the serial number you are replacing. On a regulator that has been aquired without a label, perhaps a designation, FLW 2360XX might be used.
The method used in producing these labels makes them quite reconizable as different than the original. As I have progressed through a learning curve I have found there are limitations as too colors. The inks used tend to be translucent .As an example, the Mistral yellow label, looked strange. I made two adjustments and we'll see what turns out. I feel the best bet will be a polished brass label with a black border, text and serial #. It will be an eye catcher but not original in any way. I am close to turning over a complete set of pictures to our host. There will be to start USD DA AQUA Master RECT and Rnd label, USD RAM rect and rnd with options, Mistral rect with 2 options and the spiro RAM in polished brass, black relief.
I appreciate your thoughts and ideas.

Best regards,
Jerry Moseman
Faux Label Works

[1969ivan1]

Can't wait to see them Jerry. Thanks for the effort.

[Bryan]

SOON ......VERY VERY SOON......Rip is working on the pages right now

[duckbill]

I've never seen the one on the lower right corner before
They look great!

[scubajim1]

These look fanstastic!

Do we have an ETA of when they might be available?

Great job for who ever is making them.

[Bryan]

Knowing the speed of our web administrator (I don't think he sleeps) the page will be ready for final review by the person making the labels in 24-48 hours. If no changes need to be made and it meets his approval the link will go live immediately.

The reason I blocked out his contact information was to prevent him from getting dozens of E-mail questions that I know his page will answer.
They are definitely worth the wait.

[JES]

Very nice! These labels look awesome!

[1969ivan1]

WOW they look very nice indeed. Well done.