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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:44 pm
by simonbeans
This is a Scubapro convertible valve that was used on some Scubapro tanks and one of my Coyne steel 80 cu ft tanks. I found it not compatible with the Argonaut Krakken yoke.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:48 pm
by luis
Thanks,

That is great information. That is the information I need.

I can accommodate that valve easily with the redesign I have drawn. Now I just need to know if there are any bigger valves.


Thanks again.

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:41 am
by rhwestfall
Luis:

Keep in mind that "shoulder" on the valve handwheel.... (then again, just rotating the yoke off horizontal can avoid it....)

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:47 pm
by couv
Another valve.

Never mind the crappy diagram. Listed are the correct dimensions.
Back to face = 1.070 in.
Width = 1.235 in.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:49 am
by Automan
Sorry for the delay but life can be hectic and I see some have already posted details of the problem.

Anyway, my photos...

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This One It Fits

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The One It Fits

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The One It Fits

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:42 pm
by couv
Hey Automan,

Sorry, this is a Vintage forum.....no digital calipers allowed. :D

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:47 am
by Ron
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The XS scuba manifold, and the individual valves when used as singles valves, will not work with the kraken yoke unless you change the knobs out. The new vindicator knobs that come standard on all XS Scuba valves extend too close to the valve face and sit under the yoke when you attempt to mount it. I have mitigated this by installing the metal knobs off of the 1960's USD J and K valves like the one pictured here onto the XS Scuba manifold, and they fit perfectly:
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:50 am
by rhwestfall
slonda828 wrote:The XS scuba manifold, and the individual valves when used as singles valves, will not work with the kraken yoke unless you change the knobs out. The new vindicator knobs that come standard on all XS Scuba valves extend too close to the valve face and sit under the yoke when you attempt to mount it.
hmmmm... that wasn't my experience....

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:31 pm
by Automan
Any news on a new yoke adapter for the Kraken?

Still keen to give my one a try in the Red Sea but I don't think it will go on any of their tank valves.

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:26 pm
by Bryan
We are still working on it....What valves are they using?

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:26 pm
by Automan
Bryan wrote:We are still working on it....What valves are they using?
I have cropped some images of the tank valves from last years trip.

We are going on the same live-aboard again for two weeks at the end of October.

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Based on the feedback on the Scubapro tank valves ones I'm not sure it will fit...

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:39 pm
by Bryan
I should have a solution for you by mid September. Luis and Herman have done their part and now it's up to me to get the process and finish correct. For now you can use a standard Conshelf XIV yoke. Should be pretty easy to come by even in the UK. We ran across a Scubapro valve on a cylinder in Canada last month and put a Conshelf yoke on the Argonaut and it worked fine.

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:21 am
by Automan
I will try and source one but reading viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6880 can still have a problem with some tank valves...
Bryan wrote:I should have a solution for you by mid September. Luis and Herman have done their part and now it's up to me to get the process and finish correct. For now you can use a standard Conshelf XIV yoke. Should be pretty easy to come by even in the UK. We ran across a Scubapro valve on a cylinder in Canada last month and put a Conshelf yoke on the Argonaut and it worked fine.

Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:26 am
by Bryan
I cant guarantee any yoke will fit ever cylinder valve produced worldwide. I'm doing the best I can with the limited information I have on valves overseas.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:27 am
by Bryan
Bryan wrote:I cant guarantee any yoke will fit every cylinder valve produced worldwide. I'm doing the best I can with the limited information I have available on valves used overseas.

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