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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:34 pm

Luis and I have covered the DIN / Argonaut/double hose subject pretty thoroughly in many other threads on the forum. I will not manufacture a DIN for the Argonaut.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:42 am

My DIN adapter has now arrived from Florida - Many thanks

I thought before I tried to fit it I would clarify how the two o-rings go in between it and the Kraken.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:57 am

mine is due any time now. curious myself......
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:32 pm

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:49 pm

thanks! Always great customer service!
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:03 pm

Fitted, ready for action (if the weather ever gets better)

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Fitted them dry and about 4N-m (36in-lbs) on a 6mm Allen Key

Is that okay?

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:03 pm

Automan wrote:Fitted, ready for action (if the weather ever gets better)


Fitted them dry and about 4N-m (36in-lbs) on a 6mm Allen Key

Is that okay?

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You need to torque the female threaded body first with a 26mm wrench. The torque value should be 20 foot* Lbs (27Nm). This is the most important torque and it should be done with a 26mm crow-foot wrench or similar. Note: This is the same torque value in the Titan and the Conshelf instruction.

After you torque the main body then you install the hand wheel and the retainer. You then tighten the retainer with a 6mm hex key. The retainer is torque to 15 foot* Lbs (20Nm) with the 6mm hex key (Allen Key).

Note: The 15 Ft* Lbs with a 6mm hex hey seems excessive so I checked the Conshelf DIN adapter instruction (versus the Titan) and this one says 40 inch*Lbs (3.3 foot*Lbs, or 4.5Nm). This seems a lot more reasonable.

These are from the Aqua Lung instruction sheet.

If you don't have a copy of the instructions, I can scan it and send you a PDF file.
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:29 pm

All the DIN adaptors were sent with the factory packaging and install information along with spare O-rings and washers.
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The 3 that were installed on Argonauts did not but I will send the owners a copy of the guide.
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:34 pm

Thanks

I figured you must have sent the instructions with it, but the statement below scared me a little bit.

Automan wrote:Fitted, ready for action (if the weather ever gets better)

Fitted them dry and about 4N-m (36in-lbs) on a 6mm Allen Key


Is that okay?

Many thanks
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:02 pm

Many thanks for the extra info and hopefully I have done it correctly now :)

Another challenge was the Toque spanner I used is in Metres-Kg so from what I could see the 20 lbs-ft converts to 2.77 m-kgs

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So with the DIN adapter disassembled I put some Crystalube on the o-rings...

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And fitted the main part using a scubapro tool to help hold the Kraken

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Using the spanner, I torqued it up and then fitted the other part of the body (parts pictured here)

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And now on my 300 Bar tank just back from test (2.5yrs old)

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But will it stick in my back? As pointed out, it does push the Kraken forward.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:02 pm

For future reference: you should never put that much grease on any O-ring. It just needs to wet the surface and wipe off any excess. The danger is that any excess grease will collect dust and particles (like sand). I would not bother taking it apart at this point, but I am mentioning it for future reference.

The longer regulator will certainly touch your back, but if you are wearing any kind of wet-suit or dry-suit, it should be perfectly comfortable and it is going to breath great. Make sure it touches between your shoulder blades and it should perform better that any regulator you have used.


I like the black and white tank color code that is used in Europe. I think we have the same color code to identify air here in the US, but nobody knows about it.
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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:38 pm

Many thanks for the tips, I shall have a chance this weekend to reduce the lube as the weather expected to be to bad to dive in our 7c water :(

Re our tank colors (or is that colours), some info on our UK standards are explained quite well at http://www.ukdivers.net/equipment/cylinders.htm

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:22 pm

7C not bad. The last time I dove the water was 33F or .55C. The Kraken didn't mind that at all. All 40 minutes worth. There was an inch of ice, but you could bash your fist through it, stick your head up and look around if you needed to get your bearings. Great fun.

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:01 pm

Bryan wrote:
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Hello Bryan, from the picture I can not understand what has to be in contact with the metal ( the bottom ).. the gasket or the ring .
Thank you
Francesco

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Re: DIN / Yoke/Sizing/Compatibility discussion

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:55 am

annisf wrote:
Bryan wrote:
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Hello Bryan, from the picture I can not understand what has to be in contact with the metal ( the bottom ).. the gasket or the ring .
Thank you
Francesco


Backup washer will fit inside O-ring. Install as shown in picture below and torque to Aqua Lung specifications.
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