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Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:15 pm
by DaveMann
I have an old pair of Voit Viking fins that are getting a bit rotten in the heel area of the foot pocket.

I have seen a YouTube video for something called SpongeRez wherein they apply this goo with a Popsicle stick to an old fin strap. It looks like a filler/reconditioner. Have any of you used it or heard anything positive about it?

It looks like this.

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Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:37 am
by Britmarine
There's an article here about the conservation of rubber artefacts:

http://www.bouncing-balls.com/chemistry ... nserve.htm

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:29 am
by captain
You may be able to conserve rubber but you can't restore it back to its original usable condition.

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:54 am
by Bryan
captain wrote:You may be able to conserve rubber but you can't restore it back to its original usable condition.
So you mean slathering it with silicone won't make it "new" again :roll: :roll:

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:41 pm
by DaveMann
Britmarine wrote:There's an article here about the conservation of rubber artefacts:

http://www.bouncing-balls.com/chemistry ... nserve.htm
That was a very interesting read. I don't know that it's applicable to my particular situation, but it was interesting. You're never too old to learn something new.

Thanks.

Dave

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:36 pm
by swimjim
Bryan wrote:
captain wrote:You may be able to conserve rubber but you can't restore it back to its original usable condition.
So you mean slathering it with silicone won't make it "new" again :roll: :roll:


But that's what Ratliff said, and everybody knows he's an expert....... :shock:

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:36 pm
by Nemrod
Silicone may temporarily make the rotten, dried out rubber goods softer and more pliable but it does not reverse the damage caused by aging, oxidation and UV exposure. Aerospace 303 protectant may prevent UV damage and oxidation on rubber and plastics still in good condition and forestall the inevitable degradation, silicone spray, not so much. Since many of these products contain silicones, I would avoid using them on silicone "rubber" products, you might not like the result.

Nem

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:20 am
by DreadfullBetty
Has anyone out there used Wintergreen oil to soften hardend old rubber? You can get it at horse tack shops. By soaking hardened rubber parts in the oil suppleness can be restored. It's a vintage motorcycle restoration trick. As far as I know you can't over soak the rubber item and the only draw back is that things smell a little minty afterwards.

Re: Vintage Rubber Repair

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:27 am
by Bronze06
DreadfullBetty wrote:Has anyone out there used Wintergreen oil to soften hardend old rubber? You can get it at horse tack shops. By soaking hardened rubber parts in the oil suppleness can be restored. It's a vintage motorcycle restoration trick. As far as I know you can't over soak the rubber item and the only draw back is that things smell a little minty afterwards.
Now this is something I never heard of. I don't mind "Minty Fresh" fins or straps or even a minty mask. I'll try this trick on some of my more "mature" rubber artifacts.
As the Captain said however, there is nothing out there that will chemically rejuvenate rubber once it has lost polymer cohesion internally. The culprit here is sulphur. Sulphur is the catalyst in the "Vulcanization" process that creates the strength and resiliance that we love about rubber, BUT sulphur reacts to oxygen and UV light continuously. As a piece ages, sulphur will leach from a rubber item and bond with O2 and thus leave the gum rubber matrix it was originally mixed with. We have all seen the end result on tires as well as scuba items that were less than loved by their owners, to wit; cracking & dry rot, which only exaserbates the problem even more. Other reactions, depending on the rubber blend, will leave a piece gummy and sticky over time.

Preservation:
I do mask and general rubber maintenance on all my "actively used" items once a year and ensure that those other items not actively being used or kept in situ are properly preserved and stored (away from heat and light). After a thorough cleaning, I seal up items with silicon grease, talcum powder or sometimes both. Silicon can seal and stop the oxidation process, but must be re-applied from time to time (if the piece is actively being used) in order for it to work. Storage in talcum powder also acts as a preservative agent because it bonds with sulphur molecules on the surface of an item on a molecular level and thus halts further reaction between the rubber and the environment. Many of us, if not all, have run into an item that has talcum on it still from the factory for this very reason. As many of us know, a really thorough rinsing in clean fresh water after every dive is a must for keeping your rubber and silicon items in good order.